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. the sex scandal came to light under pope john paul ii. they say now look for youth, a conservative vision and most likely, a european. >> the numbers are really stacked toward the europeans. unless there's some kind of inspirational moment where someone kind of just steps out of the pack -- by that i mean someone who speaks languages, knows the global world, it's a very difficult job description. >> reporter: but maybe not difficult for cardinal natural olay, a french canadian. >> there is a cardinal mark olay, who is now currently the head of the office of bishops in rome. so we could have a canadian. >> reporter: 119 cardinals will vote in the upcoming conclave to select the new pope, most of whom were appointed by pope benedict xvi and pope john paul. both, staunch conservatives, so expect a conservative voice to be chosen. something young catholics accept. >> i feel like moderate is probably fine. i'm a card-carrying liberal like for sure, but like -- >> but you don't think the church needs to go that direction? >> well, i don't know if pe
, not so many times, but the last one i was here, and that was because a pope died. john paul ii died after living his last years infirmed and in visible pain. now we have a transition, we have a living pope. you're not watching a funeral before the next pope is elected. you're not watching the world's heads of state come here to pay their respects to the departed pope. you're seeing a much different kind of transition. john al whlen, what is pope benedict going to do the rest of the day? >> normally the wednesday audience, the pope gives religious instruction rooted in scripture. but today i would imagine that knowing the momentous nature of what's happening, it's probably going to be uncharacteristically personal for benedict. i will imagine he will talk about what was in his mind and in his heart as he reached this remarkable decision to step as sight and what his hopes for the church are going forward. >> and high school a moment of opportunity and possibility, many saying this needs to be a moment for reform. what kind of reform do you think needs to happen? of course in our minds are
hagel gets blocked at least for now. rand paul and others are threatening to block john brennan. susan rice didn't get to the nomination process. is this rocky road if that's how we want to describe it, david, does this hurt the president's credibility or at least his ability to get things done, a small distraction, should it become a smaller one? put it into the wider con tech in terms of what the white house want to be accomplishing right now. >> it does take away according to past presidents, national security is where one says the president says it's a precedent to do this. it's a time that we have a lot of things going on in terms of the president's foreign policy, particularly in the middle east and withdraw in afghanistan coming to the fore and you need someone in the pentagon doing this. it can be seen as a nuisance in that the president want to be talking about his agenda, which is the gun control, immigration, things that people can get done. you have, of course, this sequester and the ongoing issue of the spending situation and taxes. so i think these are the things that the
that this pope hasn't done or even pope john paul ii that can change that perception? >> sure. i think that this pope certainly has had a papacy plagued with scandal and i think that was a clear signal to the next pope that their key task will be healing those divisions and that's going to come with more transparency and certainly transformation in our church. >> sister louise acres is a members of the sisters of charity. she was here on "jansing & co." yesterday. here's what she had to say about women in the church. >> i think the catholic church, the roman catholic church is probably one of the last bastians of sexism. i think there's a growing resistance to the status quo today and a growing movement to suggest changes. >> the sister went on to say that women in the priesthood could be one possible solution and i'm wondering what your reaction is to those comments? >> absolutely. i think it's one component of the transformation we need to see. but we can't just add women in stir, right? we need to fully transform our church, look at those policies and practices that we have that are
that led back to the vatican as well. a lot of questions about what it would be. john paul ii, thinking about resigning, prepared letters of resignation, and both from 197. he turned 75 and 80, never went ahead with the resignations that he was thinking about. but it will be interesting to hear more as we understand why the pope -- the reasons behind why the pope has been called to resign, which will happen on february 28th. >>> other stories making news this morning. john berman has that too. >>> talking about the storm here. families and businesses in seven counties trying to recover from a violent tornado that tore a path through southern mississippi on sunday. ripping apart homes, shops, and causing damage to a university campus. 4,000 homes are still without power. 16 people are injured. and a storm chaser captured this terrifying sight. a funnel cloud in hattiesburg. that took the brunt of a series of reported twisters that just pounded the region overnight. >>> meanwhile, the northeast beginning dig out of a history-making blizzard. parts of the region, including the hardest hit
to pope john paul ii. he talked to people about how his demise seemed somewhat of a dishonorable end to his papacy. he had in his mind already what type of glorious exit, to use the phrase, he may want in store for him. let's get some perspective as to what is coming out of the vatican as to why this is happening, what it means. john allen, our senior vatican analyst, joins us now. what do we know, john? >> reporter: what we know is that we are living through a day of enormous shock here in rome. not so much the pope benedict xvi chose to resign. he signaled two years ago that he would be open to doing that, but the fact that we had absolutely no indication this was coming today. precisely because of that, therefore, there are some enormous unanswered questions about how all of this is going to play out. i suppose the biggest questions would be, "a," what will the role of a retired pope be? will he continue to play any kind of public role? will he continue to exercise any influence on the future direction of catholicism almost whether he wants to or not? and the second obvious questi
that as the consolidation of the conservative movement of the papacy. he will be seen as the second part of the john paul ii papacy rather than as somebody who made a huge mark of his own, at least not in terms of the wider world. >> beyond those efforts, was he trying to change the church in any way? >> he came in saying he was willing to make the church smaller if it would make it holier, which to some extent he may have achieved. he believed in internal evangelization. >> what do you think of the timing of this february 28th? it means we'll have a new pope by easter. >> it's remarkable. i can't imagine what kind of jockeying will again to go on. it's fascinating to think who may be next. >> david, thank you very much. . this morning at st. patrick's cathedral in new york, the archbishop of new york cardinal timothy dolan, said he is as shocked as anyone to hear the pope is stepping down. >> i always admired him as a s scholar, as a priest as a holy man, and now my admiration for him is even higher because of his humility. i don't have any insider information, but i would presume t
is 85 years old. he became pope in 2005 after the baeth of john paul ii. likely take place before the end of march. the last pope to resign was way back in the 1200s 13th century. major headline today pope benedict xvi has announced he is resigning at the end of this month. much more on this to come throughout the morning. >> 7:30 right now. folks waking up to wet weather. >> a little bit of rain moving through overnight. the wet roadways will slow things down. but temperatures in the mid 30s, at least we're not doing ice. let's get to the maps. most of the vain now to the east. still pressing just east of the bay there out towards saint michaels. still getting rain showers. however, here locally in the metro area, up and down the 95 correspond door, we're generally done with the rain. not going to be a beautiful day. clouds for most of the day. for the most part, most of the measurable rain has pushed east of the bay. it will be east of those areas the next hour or two. let me show you the bigger picture. the bottom line is we have a warm front into the area later today. you are
-to-day basis. i think we would be looking for vigorous and dynamic leadership, perhaps in the mold of john paul ii. >> archbishop of milan, the archbishop of vienna, gmt enoa, italy, two vatican cardinals in the mix, do you agree with the monsignor about the qualities of what needs to be considered as we look to who would take benedict's place? >> yes, i think the monsignor is absolutely -- as somebody who has studied this, the church has become quite diverse. while there's been a decline of things catholic in places like the united states, that is not the case in places like africa, latin, central america, central mexico. the activity has quite energized, so make a prediction that you'll see a greater voice of those communities, nigeria, brazil, mexico, because the catholic church and the conclave in particular has become more diversified over the years. don't forget john paul ii was the first known italian in 453 years, nobody ever believed that, so here we are 2013, and you might see a seismic change again. >> ray flynn, monsignor tom mcsweeny, thank you for joining me. i really appreciate i
. >> and john paul would have been. >> a movie star. >> that gives you a sense of the different temperaments. yet the emotion that is now being really demonstrated as these cardinals say farewell face to face for the last time, all of them kissing the fisherman's ring which we know will be defaced and destroyed which benedict xvi's papacy ends. >> that's right. there are two instruments of the papal office, one is the ring and one is the official papal seal. the seal is kept in a safe in an office in the vatican. of course in the middle ages as you know, christiane be these were what were used to stamp paper bulls. which made them official. after a papacy had ended, someone might use the instruments to falsify papal documents. that's where the custom of destroying them came from. that will be honored at the end of benedict's papacy as well. >> thank you. we'll continue to watch this with all of you. back to you, john and zoraida in new york. >> it is interesting to see this as history is being made at the vatican. pope benedict xvi saying good-bye to the cardinals who have assembled and many
suffering is meant to respond to that. he's well aware of what john paul ii did, for instance, stay in office until the very end, suffering physically. and in an extreme and public way was legitimate. he's saying, given the situation -- >> and as you look back over his -- >> such that he's -- so far. >> excuse me, father. as you look back over his papacy, what will he will remembered most for? >> i think he'll be remembered, above all, as a teaching pope for his books about the life, his encyclicals. the books about the life of jesus have been profound. it will take years to unpack all of the profundity of his thought. he's done a great service to the church already in his service to john paul ii. >> father john wauck, thank you very much. the first pope to have an account on twitter. >> the first pope ever to tweet. he's 85 years old. pope john paul ii was 84 when he died. wlerned after he died he considered twice resigning because of his ill health. this sets up a political process with the conclave electing the next pope. dan harris joining us on this discussion. it was a quick p
political relevant today in some ways that it's ever been. think about it. we saw during john paul's reign that he played a central role in the collapse of european communism by inspiring the solidarity movement in poland. the people's power movement in the philippines that brought down the marxist regime would never have happened without the political involvement of the catholic church. scholars these days are writing books about the revenge of god, that religion is making a comeback as a political player. two-thirds of the 1.2 billion catholics in the world today live outside the west, and most live in societies where religion is critically important, so, yeah, i would say there's still some gas left in the church's political gas tank. >> john, real quickly, only a couple of seconds left here, but what do you know specifically in regards to what they are looking for for a pope? stances on abortion, same-sex marriage, that kind of thing. >> reporter: well, all these cardinals have been appointed by john paul and benedict so they are all in agreement on the main. of course they are looking
following the death of pope john paul ii. this is pretty incredible because this has not happened in 600 years. the last time a pope stepped down was back in 1415. so this is certainly something that we don't see often happening with the catholic church. but the pope says he is just too tired to carry on with his papal duties. >> we want to take a live look at what's going on in italy. this is a statement coming out of the vatican. we would take the sound live for you. however, it's coming in through italian so this has not been translated yet. you'll probably see the translation of this video, megan, coming up a little later on "good morning america." >>> we do want to let you know they're going to cover that story. pope benedict xvi calling his choice, quote, a decision of great importance for the life of the church, unquote. so we will be hearing more about this as the morning goes along. we do want to remind you that you can follow any of the updates of the story with us through twitter along with any breaking news. all you have to do is search abc2 news. you can find our twitter han
of pope john paul xxii who held on and on as his health clung on as well. a conclave is expected to select a new pope sometime before the end of march. >> mark phillips thank you. we want to go to allen pizzey. he is on the phone in rome. the last time someone resigned was pope gregory xii in 1415. how is rome reacting? >> reporter: it's interesting. there is no reaction so to speak. i'm actually walking down toward st. peter's square. i just got out of the taxi. i told the driver the news. he said, oh, i thought i heard that on the radio. that's too bad. there's no sign of unusual activity in st. peter's square. the usual crowds milling about standing in line waiting to get in. i think it will take a couple of days. people will start immediately wonder, of course, who next. that's always the guessing game. people make liflts of who can be the next pope. we're sort of slowly compiling our lists, but i haven't heard of anybody who's picked a front-runner. the pope took everybody by surprise. as mark said it's interesting he chose to step down when he felt he could n
, at the beginning of the papacy of john paul ii. one of of the reasons it's in a better place today is because of pope benedict. who as cardinal ratzinger, he didn't get it at the beginning, but he listened and he learned and he pushed and he threw hundreds of priests out -- bad priests out of the priesthood. so the church is in a much better position today. mostly due to pope benedict than it was in the past. >> yeah, a lot of -- great to get your thoughts. a lot of people, of course, would disagree and still a lot of angst and a lot of people who say that the pontiff was stymied at attempts for reform. we will see what happens the next time around. we do appreciate your thoughts. reverend thomas reese, jesuit priest. thanks for your time today. >>> the last week and a half we have heard blt murder allegations against oscar pistorius, but he is not the only family member who's now in trouble. >> carl pistorius is facing homicide charges. all about a traffic accident. we'll have that story coming up. so...how'd it go? well, dad, i spent my childhood living with monks learning the art of dealma
on the mission of the papacy. pope benedict is 58 years old. he became pope in 2005 after the death of john paul ii. there is no information as to when a conclave to elect a new pope will begin though it will not happen until after the pope's resignation date. the last pope to resign was way back in the 1200s actually major headline out of rome. pope benedict xvi is resigning. we'll have much more on this coming throughout the morning. >>> talk about our weather now from mississippi to maine. it will be a day of cleaning up after mother nature. the deep south took a direct hit from a tornado on sunday. at the same time, the northeast is still digging out after a blizzard dumped as much as three feet of snow. what a mess up there. and it will still be kind of canadiansy the rest of the week too, right? >> well, potentially. have you to wonder because so far this winter, we have abeen kind of just getting by. >> skirting it. >> it has been very close. you have to wonder when mother nature will deliver one. it looks like a few chances for winter weather later this week. for this morning, just some
at the time of pope john paul ii's ilniz. and i think it's much more important to have a vital individual there to carry on as pope, so i think the pope made what i think will now be a precedent-setting decision. >> i think there's no doubt in that. with the advances in medical technology, if they could continue to essentially live out their lives as pope. so somebody we'll be discussing in the coming days. i want to switch gears and talk about the state of the union. glen rush from politico writing that it will be less of a olive branch. if that's the strategy, what do you think of it? do you think it's the time what most americans seen -- the time is right for the president to push hard? >> well, you know, they always ask the question, the state of the union is, fill in the blank. i think the state of the union is strong, but the state of economy is weak. we have too many people looking for jobs and too many people who have given up looking for jobs. he never menned -- so let's get together, put people back to work. he can approve the pipeline and the other is to approve free trade with
the vatican's congregation for bishops. the cardinal from argentina who is with the chief of staff under john paul ii, a very good manager. this is all sound and fury signifying nothing until those 117 cardinals who are under 80 and have the right to vote for the next pope get here to rome, roll up their sleeves, and get to work. >> is that done in the same ways we've seen in years past after the pope has died, the white smoke, the black smoke, all of that? >> it will be very shortly from now that they'll get the process ready. they'll have to put in a fake floor like they did last time to put in jamming devices that will prohibit anyone from eavesdropping electronically what is going on in the sistine chapel. also, they'll install a stove and prepare the chemical cartridges that will turn the black smoke into white smoke when they elect the pope. is he referred to as the former pope? where will he live, what will he do? >> he's got another month on the job, so we're presuming he's going to carry out his regular calendar. this week, of course, features ash wednesday, the beginning of lent for
-perpetuating leadership. virtually all these cardinals who are picked either by pope benedict or by pope john paul, i believe, somebody correct me if i'm wrong, the average age is somewhere in the 70s, low 70s. there aren't if to really drive your metaphor into the ground, a lot of blue state sort of cardinals in that list, and so there are not a lot of obviously progressive candidates on the list of potential popes. i don't think progressive conservative, however, is the right optic. i think the real question is when you get someone elected who actually is open to change and dialogue on some of these issues, on the all male celibate priesthood, if not on women priests. birth control is kind of a separate issue. the church ares until this contraception fight over the obama plan, really hasn't preached very much about it. it's not only the faithful who let it go. it's really the church itself who sort of accept that. there just aren't a lot of catholic families of 12 kids anymore in most of the west, and increasingly, not in the third world either. >> e.j., i want to bring in our panel here in new yor
who will be voting were appointed either by john paul ii or benedict xvi and on the big picture issues they are all of one mind. i think it's quite unlikely the next pope is going to ordain women or repeal church teaching on abortion or gay marriage or those kinds of issues. now on the other hand, i would certainly say from my own experience of talking to cardinals the more thoughtful among them realize the church has a woman's problem. they understand there are a lot of sisters who feel the same way as our guest does and it's not just nuns, lots of women generally feel that way. i think the next pope will face this difficult challenge of trying to reach out to women and assuring them there's a place for them in the church while at the same time drawing a line in the sand on the ordinary nation question. >> when you say that they're going to select the new pope and they're going to think outside the box and they're maybe going to south america or africa to choose the next pope, they're really not thinking outside the box though, are they? maybe they are in picking a pope from another c
-day timetable to start the process to choose a new pope were set in 1996 by pope john paul ii and only could be changed by another pope. that is what ben dick today benedict did today, one of his last official acts. he gave his final sunday blessing to huge crowds in st. peter's square. no date is set for the conclave to begin. in order to have a new pope by the start of holy week, a new pope would have be installed by sunday, march 17th. the date change comes amid the news there will be one less cardinal voting in the enclave. cardinal keith o'brien of scotland, britain's highest ranking catholic leader is retiring and will not be attending. his resignation of archbishop of edinburgh is part of a mandatory age requirement because he is 75 years old but it comes in the wake of allegations of misconduct. british newspapers report that o'brien has been accused by three current priests and one former priest of acting inappropriately with them in the 19 80s. the cardinal said he will not monday that he will not attend the conclave because he does not want media attention focused on him dur
, communication travelquickly, ri i know that during the life of john paul ii, towards the end while he certainly gave us an example of endurance and perserverance, pope benedict xvi was watching those last years of his life and seeing important work of the church not get done and he said, i don't think, at least in these times, that the best thing for the church is to have me go through the same thing. if other people manage or mismanage what needs to be taken care of quickly and well. >> megyn: as we watch the castle, what we understand is going to happen at 2 p.m. eastern time the swiss guard is going to walk away, just walk away, signaling that we no longer have a pope because they're the ones charged with protecting our pope and have been for 500 years, is that what is going to happen? >> that is true. and very colorful, i can't see the images right now, but if you're seeing the swiss guard who protect the pope, those uniforms were made by michelangelo, a great tradition and they said, not only do we protect the pope, but eonly protect the pope, therefore if this ere's no pope we're leaving.
and into his studies. he goes on short walks, but he unlike john paul ii was not for long hikes. >> thank you very much. here in the united states, american catholics are divided on the future of their church. catholi catholic split from what they want. 46% want change and the pape as tow go in a new direction. 51% said stay traditional. live from new york is the host of the busted halo show on the catholic channel on sirius fm. welcome. as we were pointing out potential next popes, me three things you want to see in this next leader. >> because we refer to the hope as the vicker of christ, the epicentative of our lord jesus christ on earth, he has to be a man who reminds us of our lord jesus. can you say sure, a lot of believers do that. you don't have to be the pope to do that, but to show the compassion and the love and the mercy of jesus christ is one. another would be at this time in our church's history, we need a unifier. there is a lot of division not only around the world, not only here in the united states, but even within the burocracy of the workings of the vatican. we heard that
of cardnal is made up of cardinals from john paul and pope benedict. you see who he chose. i don't think he has a favorite. and he's certainly not going to show that he has a favorite in these days. >> okay. greg burke, thanks very much for your insight. >> unchartered territory. >>> turning, now, to the latest on that frantic manhunt for the rogue expolice officer, christopher dorner, on the run right now. we showed you the surveillance video that surfaced overnight. could it be a clue to where he is at this moment? abc's pierre thomas is tracking the latest on this story. pierre, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, elizabeth. it's becoming clear dorner could be anywhere. and this morning, there's evidence the hunt for him has gone international. overnight, police conducted a raid at this hotel in tijuana, mexico. they apparently found no evidence he was there. but for days, customs officials have been hunting for dorner along the southern border. and there's new details this morning about dorner's possible movements in the days before the shootings. tmz obtained this surveillance vid
, pope benedict xvi does have something on pope john paul ii, the catholic church experienced a 6% increase in favorability, up from 56% during pope john paul ii's tenure and that's what the survey says. >>> coming up, she beats out her husband in almost every popularity poll. now michelle obama is back on the road and we'll look at what the second term may hold for the first lady. >>> first, the latest from south africa on where the olympic star accused of murder is now a day after being released on bail. you're watching msnbc. i've always had to keep my eye on her... but, i didn't always watch out for myself. with so much noise about health care... i tuned it all out. with unitedhealthcare, i get information that matters... my individual health profile. not random statistics. they even reward me for addressing my health risks. so i'm doing fine... but she's still going to give me a heart attack. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more than 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. >>> more than 100 days after hurricane sand e some storm victims
the last pope, one that we knew growing up, pope john paul ii, literally allowed the world to watch him die. that was part of the process of sharing life, willie. >> yeah. this pope says he's old and fragile, unable to travel, but you make a good point about the previous pope. john, we've heard many times now that the next pope, whoever that may be, will have to confront the sexual abuse scandal, puts it mildly. that has consumed the roman catholic church for so long. what will that mean exactly? what will a pope do? a new pope in terms of confronting that? will he come out immediately in an opening address? will he purge some of the priests? what do you think that pope will do at least from a public relations point of view to change the perception? >> well, it's the perception and the reality. it's the most disturbing thing about any self-protecting institution. you see this as the catholic chump has, for decade upon decade now, put its own institutional survival and its own institutional dignity, really, ahead of the interests of the weakest people in its care, its children. i think many
the memory of benedict's predecessor, john paul ii. have a listen to this. >> people said, if anyone should have resigned, it was he. parkinson parkinson's, couldn't get around. i think it is the image, the visual image of a man incapacitated. people say, well, how much is he really doing that? how much does he have his hands on the pulse of what is happening? >> chris cuomo this morning. father, do you think just straight up do you think his successor might find wisdom in the notion of hanging it up early, maybe set a precedent here? >> i agree with the quotations of the priest. we need a person, a leader, a real leader with good health, a wise man, continuing to train and i agree with benedict sistine and he has few guideline -- very clear, if i don't have the health, spirituality, mentality, and everything, i will resign. and it is simple for us. the doctrine is continuing to be the same. i think it is an example for everybody, the leader, the church, continuing. it is much better. resign now. >> italian popes, think of polish, currently german. looking at the statistics and the numbers
. first with a pope from poland, a great pope john paul ii and pope benedict xvi, great pope from germany. both were surprises. certainly in latin america, there are enormous challenges and enormous opportunities. large numbers of the faithful who are desserting the church. we need to bring them back. in fact, pope benedict had a trip scheduled to brazil this summer for world youth day. that's going to be a significant moment. so, certainly the cardinals will be looking to north and latin america, too as one of the candidates. >> quickly, i don't know if you saw this photo of lightning striking st. peter's just 24 hours after the announcement. was this some sort of sign? >> well certainly i live just a couple minutes from the basilica. i saw it myself. i'm a witness. and i think god himself was saying to us these are going to be exciting times for the church. and i am with you. i'm present with you. and do not be afraid to go forward and make the right and the best decision for the church and, indeed for the world. >> that's what you saw when you saw the lightning
, and he looks frail, looks old, but he seemed to be enjoying himself. john paul ii is very much a more engaging pope and not as much as a private man as benedict xvi is. he will leave here tomorrow around this time, by helicopter, and he will go to castle gandolpho and come back to the vatican in his retirement. he'll go into isolation, he's chosen that for himself. the vatican garden cottage as it were, it's not particularly comfortable, i'm told, i haven't been in, but it is somewhere he can spend his twilight years as it were, and he's 85 years old, let's remember that, in peace and reflecting on where he is, who he is, and how far he's come. today was very much an occasion of reflection for the 100,000 or so people who were here, brooke. it was absolutely amazing. we were up there, right at vatican city there and it was a sense of quiet, even though there are over 100,000 people there, so i say, a time of reflection and peace for so many of the faith. brooke? >> and history being made and now less than 24 hours from now, where you are in rome, becky anderson, my thanks to you. >>>
fiery end, john. >> paul vercammen covering this developing story for us. thank you. >>> we want to move on to the president's state of the union address. the president laying out his vision for a second term. last night, challenging republicans to work with him. the speech seemed to hit home with a majority of americans. 53% had a very positive reaction. 24% somewhat positive and 22% reacted negatively. still, a majority of speech watchers, 53%, do not believe this will lead to more bipartisan cooperation. glass half full, glass half empty. brianna keilar here to talk about the speech. >> i think the polls might be on to something, john. president obama talked a lot about the economy, deficit reduction is lone is not an economic plan and with some echoes of the campaign, he talked about investing in the middle class, through education, clean energy investments, and an increase in the minimum page. economic measures that quite swiftly republicans rejected. >> we can say with renewed confidence that the state of our union is stronger. >> reporter: in the first state of the union address o
poland. a great pope pope john paul, and pope benedict xvi, also great pope from germany. both were surprises. certainly in latin america there are enormous challenges and enormous opportunities. large numbers of the faithful who are deserting the church. we need to bring them back. in fact, pope benedict had a trip scheduled to brazil this summer for world youth day. that's going to be a significant moment. certainly the cardinals will be looking to north latin america, too, as one of the candidates. >> quickly monsignor, i don't know if you see the photo of lightning striking st. peter's just 24 hours after the announcement. was this some sort of sign? >> well, certainly -- i live just a couple of minutes here. i saw it myself. i'm a witness. and i think the holy -- god himself was saying to us these are going to be exciting times for the church. i am with you, i am present with you, and did not be afraid to go forward and make the right and the best decision for the church and indeed for the world. >> that's what thought when you saw the sflieng. >> yeah. i was
view her favorable. president obama second at 51%. paul ryan, marco rubio, john boehner, all far behind. joining me now karen tumulte and david goodfriend. thank you for joining me. the analysis of the seven-point dive there, if that's the accurate word here, why do you believe the approval rating is sinking from december? >> a couple of things. in december, we just come off the large presidential election where both he and his republican opponents spent inordinate amounts of money to get the point across and people weigh the two messages. mitt romney versus barack obama and now left with sort of a generic feeling of the public how do you think things are going? as you put on the screen, most americans don't feel things are going well and will blame that on an incumbent. that having been said, the president's approval ratings are still strong as you point out, strong relative to congress and historical trends. i happen to think that the biggest news out of that poll is even after the republicans tried to tar her with benghazi, hillary clinton remains unbelievably strong and i think that
't have chris paul. guess who was doing all the lobbing. they're throwing it down. >> two people. >> they got all the dunks on last night. watch john wall here on the other end after this steal to wrap thins up. he will go left hand lob city. the boys get a nice win. you didn't like that dunk? >> it was okay. >> you didn't like the dunk? >> it was all right. >> when your point guard goes up with the left hand. >> it was fine. >> oh, lie you could do better. 98-90. the wizards get a nice win at home. 12-35 for wall and the wizards. 9 and 14 at home. baby steps, kids. >>> college now. this is the last meeting for the two teams. it has been a pretty good rivalry through the years. last night, getting up and throwing it down. you will like this one. watch this lob city. >> okay. >> going up ally oop. >> come on, you can't yawn at that one. >> that was pretty good. >> and mason gets a win on the road. back to the ravens as we were discussing earlier. if you wrote it up any better for ray lewis, i don't know how you could do it. this is the way you're going to go out, your last game ev
this spector of the secretary of defense nominee being held up for personal reasons, as john mccain just said. you've got brennan being held up by rand paul. he says he's going to place a hold on brennan at the cia. jack lew is undergoing questioning now and getting roughed up a bit. and right now his nomination may or may not be held up. what's the republican end game here? it's just not good for the national party brand. >> no, i don't think it is good, joe. and you've seen all this up close before. i think this is just a moment of leverage here. i mean, look. the president's got leverage on his domestic agenda right now. he's used his leverage after the election on taxes. you know, this is some leverage that republicans have to get some questions answered, to send some messages, to fire some shots across the bow. they're doing that. the white house is listening, by the way. it's mostly vice president biden who's talking to some of these more recalcitrant republicans and making sure they get what they need so they can get some of this stuff behind them. issues like benghazi. you know, i don
state of the union responses from marco rubio and rand paul, the republican, the tea party responses and now karl roving is targeting some tea party candidates. john avlon is cnn contributor and senior political columnist for "newsweek" and "the daily beast." good to see you. matt kibby is president of the group freedomworks which supports tea party candidates. good to see you. both coming to us from washington. gentlemen, civil wars are often long bloody fights leaving both sides in the end. is that the path the gop is on? why is the gop allowing this fight to be so nasty and public? >> i think the republican party has always contained a lot of competing conservative tribes. this factional fight is coming to the front forefront because of the disastrous election, the amount of money fueling these different factions and a deep philosophical division between more center right folks and social conservatives. there's fundamental contradictions that need to get worked out. >> so matt, can there possibly be a winner out of this kind of fight, the republicans versus the tea party movement?
through a republican primary. maybe they carve up the reasonable vote and rand paul walks through without looking. >> we know that jeb bush won the election in 2008. >> john mccain -- >> he also won, he took a hard line against immigration but was seen as a liberal republican earlier in his year. >> earlier in his career. >> at different points in his career. we tend to believe that moderate republicans can not get through the process but they have shown that it ends up happening. >> do they not get through the process, at the expense of, and look at the last republican primary as the example, by the time mitt romney picked up the nomination after the 112 republican debates that we were judged to. >> and somewhere to the right of herman cain >> i want do not think it's fair to paint taall the republicans with the mitt romney brush. >> the point that was being made is that even if you are not as. right leaning, as some would have you -- some folks may have you to -- some may try to paint you to be. by the time the primary is over, you have really come across -- >> it's true for both partie
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